ZCorn Golf Podcast
Welcome to the ZCorn Golf Podcast, where we dive deep into the secrets of breaking 80. Join Zach Cornell as he interviews top golfers who share their tips, tricks, and game breakdowns. Whether you're striving to break 80 or just looking to improve your swing, this podcast is packed with insights to help you elevate your game.
ZCorn Golf Podcast
Conquering Golf's Inconsistencies | A Golf Shot Draft
Ever wondered how even professional golfers can experience drastic score swings, and what it means for amateurs like us? Today, we tackle this reality as we share an incredible stat from John Sherman at Practical Golf about a pro golfer who shot an 80 and a 63 in the same weekend! Join us as we analyze the importance of setting realistic expectations and the value of dissecting our golf rounds post-play.
During this episode, we also explore the exciting differences between playing solo and as part of a scramble team. Find out how strategies differ in each situation and discover the critical role of course management in breaking 80, 90, or 100. We'll also share our experiences and insights from analyzing our games, and discuss the reality of professional golfers and the scores they achieve.
Lastly, we have some fun with a draft of the best golf shots we'd love to have in our bag. From the low stinger off the tee to the high flop shot, we'll examine the importance of shot shaping, yardages, and having a variety of shots in our arsenal. So come along and join us for an entertaining and informative journey through the world of golf in this episode of the Pure Golf Podcast!
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What is going on? everybody, my name is Jordan and thank you for joining the Pure Golf Podcast today. Today, zach and I you know, we did a lot of talking. We did a lot of talking, had a lot of funny moments. So this one isn't going to be as edited, because we're just kind of like flying off the cuff a lot of times And I love that. The viewers kind of want to hear us not keep it so serious many times, but to just kind of like let it play out, and so we're going to do that. There's not much editing that has happened here. It's just us talking.
Speaker 1:We do a draft about the best golf shots that we would like to have in our bag, which is very entertaining. We also we started out the podcast with Zach bringing out a stat of just how inconsistent professional golfers can be and how that kind of makes us feel as average golfers, and by average golfers I mean amateur golfers who are not professional in any sense of the word. Other than that. Just a random text that came my way that I am going to share with you guys from Lauren Shout out to Lauren, and it was just like a little brain teaser. What if it has nothing to do with golf, but we're just putting it in here anyways. And the text read what if Aristotle was pronounced like Chipotle? And that leads us with Aristotle, and I kind of I kind of liked how that sounded. So I'm just going forward. If we ever talk about philosophy in on the Pure Golf podcast, we're just going to go with Aristotle, because I really just I dug this and she will very much appreciate that we mentioned her in the podcast today. So shout out to Lauren, she's the best. I'm going to send it over to well, myself for announcements.
Speaker 1:Zach makes some announcements later in the podcast. We're just keeping them in there to remind you, hey, what's coming up this week. So that'll do it for me here. Now over to the announcements What's up guys? Okay, so the announcements. This week.
Speaker 1:On Wednesday we had a podcast release talking about why free golf help isn't actually free and is actually costing me more. Zach also released a video on YouTube for our channel detailing what happened to him when he played three rounds of golf in three days. It's pretty funny and it also gives you just some perspective of how hard it is to do and what a wear and tear it takes on your body. So why recovery is so important.
Speaker 1:Today we are obviously releasing the draft podcast and the how inconsistent our professional golfers podcast, and then, aside from that, on Saturday Zach is releasing a match play video on YouTube, and on Monday we will be doing a tournament recap for the PGA tournament that just kicked off, actually just a couple of hours ago. So we'll be recapping that on Sunday night and we'll be posting that very early 6am on Monday morning for anybody who's driving to work or anybody who just wants to tune in and hear what's going on in the world of the PGA. So, yeah, we don't do live here, not yet, at least not yet. So, all right, guys, have a wonderful day and thank you for joining.
Speaker 2:John Sherman on Twitter is at practical golf. Just to make sure our sources are very clear. He tweeted this today or yesterday and I wanted to just kind of get your thoughts about it because I think it's so true, especially for somebody like me who has a score goal and we're talking about. You know, i'm trying to break 80 right now. So he tweeted a pro golfer went 80, then 63 over the weekend. A 15 handicapper at the local Muni says I want to be more consistent and a pro golfer just did that. So I just want to talk about how I feel like people have these expectations over their own game, over other people's games that they are very familiar with, like my friends, for example And I just want to get your thoughts on. For us as golfers, how should we approach our scores? And when you see a tweet like that showing that a golfer, like a pro, professional golfer, just shot an 80, then a 63 and it's that drastic for him, how should we, as amateur golfers, approach our own golf games?
Speaker 1:I mean be realistic, you know, like didn't we just see that at the PGA championship, like we saw a lot of guys shoot in the 80s, right, and I think it's. I would ask you in response of like, what is your low end? What is your high end right now?
Speaker 2:I've been better at analyzing my game after the round and really just sitting down and thinking, okay, what are the positives I can take away from this round and what are things that I need to work on. So the last round that I played I already told you this, jordan I had I hit at least eight or nine balls out of bounds in some way. Somehow, i still was managing to shoot. I think I shot a 91 on the day, and this and this is coming from a guy that is trying to break 80. So I sit down and be like, okay, well, obviously, the main thing I need to work on is off the team. It was just absolutely atrocious. However, i can take away, the rest of my game was pretty, pretty good in response to that. Like, if I kept the ball in play, that's eight or nine strokes. Right there I'm fighting to break 80 at that point, and the reason why I even brought this tweet up to you because I think it's a pretty good discussion starter A lot of my friends are guys that are people that are trying to break 100, people that are trying to break 90.
Speaker 2:They have they have their own score goals right, and I feel like handicap is a big part of that where it's like oh, i'm trying to lower my handicap, i'm trying to become a scratch golfer A lot of golfers talking that in those terms, right. So when I tell people that I personally am like a 10 or a 11 handicap I think I'm playing like an 11 right now And then I tell people oh yeah, my round today, you know, i shot upper eights, i just shot low nines People are like and you're an 11 handicap, what's going on? And I feel like a lot of people when they hit that one singular score to lower their handicap, it all of a sudden is this mindset shift of oh, i should be shooting that score every single time, like there's this expectations for it.
Speaker 2:Like you've arrived, you've arrived when you shot that low score right Exactly, and we've talked about this before on our podcast. Golf is such an up and down game And when you're working on something in your swing specifically, your score is most likely going to balloon anyways. And I just wanted to. I just wanted to get your thoughts on it because you, as a swing coach, have had multiple people come in talking about you know they have a score goal, they have their own handicap. What is your response to somebody that had that exact reaction that my friends do? Like I told them yeah, you know, they know I'm trying to break 80. And then all of a sudden I shoot a 91. They're like are you okay, dude? Like are you sure you're an 11 handicap? So what's your response as a swing coach? I'm really curious of your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1:Like I don't have the exact percentage here Majority, high majority of golfers when they walk in the door for the first time are the number. one thing is I just want to be more consistent. right, and I think this is just the stat that you're throwing out is not uncommon where we see a golfer go really in a PGA tour professional golfer go really low and then really high, like within that tournament or within a couple tournaments of each other, like what the fr John Rom is no longer a plus 10. He shot like a 75 hand. He shot a 75 today. I think it's the hardest sport to be really consistent at. you know, it is when the driver is going well. life may be a little bit easier but life may also be a little bit harder. You know I am. I think you would have given praise to the God above for a 91 with how poorly you drove the ball that day, right Like It was it was.
Speaker 2:let's say I was. I was excited when the round ended about how well I played on every other part of my game, right So, saving Bogey on a lot of those holes. I mean it was Stonebridge. We just finished recording there and I went back and played there And I mean, dude, some of the positions I was in I'm sitting there. I'm like the fact that I personally was able to get up and down was a miracle.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1:I mean, the measure of getting better at golf is not the lowest round you'll ever shoot, you know, i think that's the very hard question to ask. That's when everything is going just perfectly, you're way, but when everything is going against you, the score you shoot then is kind of how I measure the golfer personally of when you hit eight shots out of bounds and you still fire a 91, that's really freaking good Right, that's amazing, i agree, like for me, i'll have to sit in there like hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, this is a plus. And yeah, to your point. I think average golfers get so fixated on, you know, for me, breaking 80, right, and like we haven't even talked about this yet. Like I ended up hurting my back right And you know I've had to sit out a little bit and you and I are going to sit down and fully reconstruct my swing, like fully go through, to make sure that you know this doesn't happen again because I hurt my back with such a poor golf swing And I think for a little bit in there I got so fixated with breaking 80.
Speaker 2:When you're videoing every single shot that you swing, trying to like break 80, you get so fixated on it. It kind of gets, that's all you're focused on, right, and then you lose sight of a lot of other things, like my health and wellness, you know. So like it really royally screwed my back and now I have to sit out for multiple weeks just to make sure that it gets better. But I think it's a really good discussion to have for any average golfers out there, because man, dude, we get so we get short-sighted when it comes to that stuff, you know. And yeah, i just wanted your thoughts on that and just for that discussion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i, knowing your golf game how I do, i'm thrilled with the 91 dude, if that's the punch in the mouth you take for the day. I've seen the short game like. You're not like. Yeah, you lose some strokes in the short game and the irons and stuff like that. But who doesn't Like it's rarely going to go everything your way that day, right?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and that's another thing too I wanted to just point out to anybody who's listening. Most people know this, but I'm just gonna remind them. It's when everything comes together in your game, when you shoot your lowest score. So when people hit that lowest score, for them is the expectation that you're just gonna be on in every single department, every single round. That's what's crazy to me. when I had this realization, when I read that tweet last night, i'm like that's just one of the truest things I've seen, and I don't know about you. This is another question I wanted to bring up. Do you think, because we've played a scramble you and I we played a four man scramble that's coming out to our YouTube I think next week actually but do you think you play better in a scramble format? or do you think you play better in a solo, like solo dolo, like you're playing your own shot every single time?
Speaker 1:Back when I played golf like a lot more. I played way better by myself because I couldn't get into a flow in a scramble of like. I agree, there was no consequence for a bad shot And I couldn't live with that over the ball.
Speaker 2:I agree, i agree with you And I've had this discussion with my friends as well. I feel like in scramble, you know, like we just filmed that 3B3 in Stonebridge And my role in the group was, you know, just put a ball in play and then let everybody else go. So, to your point, there was no consequences, when you know they had two balls already in a good spot. So I'm thinking, okay, i'm just gonna swing as hard as possible right now and try and drive the ball as far as possible.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, i agree, i think I personally do play better when it comes to solo stuff because, also, i feel like there's more course management, right, There's more consideration of, okay, where do I need to put this golf ball for the ability for me to get up and down on a par-five, right, there's like, if you're not getting on the green in two when it comes to scramble formats, you're probably losing to the other team in that situation. Sure, and when you're playing solo, i feel like you're able to, you're able to play to your own strengths. Let's just say that, absolutely. So those are the two thoughts that I had when coming into the podcast, that I wanted to just bring them up to you and get your thoughts on both of them.
Speaker 1:I'm curious. You should run a poll on our social media. Do you play better individually or in a scramble format? Because I'm curious when we get back. I'll just tack on one more thing that you're saying, Like I'm thinking of hole number nine over at Stonebridge during the scramble.
Speaker 2:Okay, So you, yeah. so if you're listening to this, it's a par-five, it's the handicap one. over at Stonebridge It's about what would you say? 270, 275 to the water. So you know, for me that's like a perfect drive getting to the edge of the water. For somebody that's a long ball hitter. they're hitting a three wood right And then from that point you have the option of laying up and staying safe or hitting over the water and it's about a 205, 210 carry to the pin. Yeah, this isn't like some little creek.
Speaker 1:This is a, this is a body of water to get over. And just like seeing the strategy play out between you and Jaden and Harrison of like Zack is just our, our guy that's just gonna get the get the ball over the body of water right, Like you would never play like that by yourself. Because there's there's a consequence, for if I completely blade this six iron over the water I'm still screwed right, But then you have two other people backing you up. You know there's a lot more freedom in that situation than that hole is a very tough golf hole. It's very tough.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and you know, what's funny is that when I went to go play Stonebridge later that week, i went for it over the water and I stuck it and then I proceeded to three putt and made bogey. So that's fantastic, that's a place, that's a place.
Speaker 1:I mean, i got to ask you before we close out on this whole handicap thing with you getting into golf are you amazed that some of the professionals shoot as as high of scores as they do from time to time?
Speaker 2:I'm more surprised than I than I ever thought. I mean it's you know it goes back to our whole thing, right? They're professionals, so I expect them to shoot, to never shoot over 80, ever or to shoot 80. I feel like you know that's like an average golfer talk. I'm not trying to throw out Parker, but he mentioned one time I think it was this last major. He was commenting that one of the guys shot 80, right In those really, really tough conditions, and he said in there and he commented in our group chat and he said I could shoot that and I'm sitting there and I'm like I don't know if you could and those conditions.
Speaker 1:No, And whenever we get out to where that course is, I will quickly make some money to prove Parker that he was very incorrect in that assumption. but I love the confidence about it.
Speaker 2:I saw, like I saw, joel Damon's caddy which he was on full swing Yep, he's a really good golfer Like obviously he's not pro level, but he proceeded to play that same exact course. What course was that? By the way, i'm not like my brain's just.
Speaker 1:Oh, kill Oh kill.
Speaker 2:Yep, okay, he proceeded to shoot. I want to say I believe it was like mid eights on that course. That course is so much harder than you know people that are just watching it you know they're sitting there like why the heck is he struggling out there? Well, that rough is like six inches deep, man, like it's. it's truly penalizing. and you go to these other like municipal courses or courses that we play It's. you know, if you don't find the fairway, you're still able and you're still managing to get onto the green. It's not that big of a penalty. but I think that's another thing that people don't realize And that's something that I realized after watching and being on this podcast for the recaps is understanding, dude, these courses that some of the professionals play. they're no joke man There's nothing.
Speaker 2:I have ever played before.
Speaker 1:Let's just say that, yeah, and who will be coming up on the channel, i think, later this week is Jeffrey. He went on and played a cap allure, where the century tournament of champions is played, and they light that course up in. Jeffrey, who's a good golfer, was like dude. That course is insanely hard. So the fact that they're able to go out and generate that low of number is crazy. They're just playing a different ball game than what we were playing And, like their 72 is completely different than if we were to shoot 72.
Speaker 2:And that's another like my final thought on this to kind of close out this conversation. Yeah, so what's coming on later on the channel is we already mentioned this We had a 3V3 scramble on the page and we had some really really good golfers. I'm talking a conference champion, jaden And then we had multiple club fitters that are they've all been in the mid 70s before in their golf game. You had a, a women's golfer. She was. She was a collegiate golfer. Now she is assistant at Barry. Am I correct on that? It's something used to be. She's not anymore, yeah, yeah, but her name is Anna and she was a beast on the course.
Speaker 2:Then you have me. You know somebody that's trying to break 80. All I'm trying to say is even the difference between me, who's like an 11 handicap compared to, i think the next worst person that we played with was probably like a five or six handicap on either team. I think night and day, like the difference between the difference between me and the next worst person. I mean it was almost. It was almost laughable. Like you will see that video and be like Zach. You didn't even contribute. That's the point.
Speaker 2:I was there just to kind of like hit some shots and show off how good of golfers like are really really out there, especially in those scramble formats. So to that point of you talking about, you know, pga guys on tour and they're like shocked that they're shooting 80, 81. Promise you, if I went out there I could not break a hundred. Like it's just it's night and day for me to a five handicap. I can't even imagine what the difference is between me and like John Rom, like it's got to be, it's got to be out of this world different. And that's that's just the final thought I had on that is is you'd be, you would be surprised about how incredible some of these golfers are, especially the ones on TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, i agree. But okay, we'll close out with one final point. A lot of times, like on golf TV, what we're watching is the players who are really hot that week. So they're rarely going to show the golfer who's really struggling, who's like shooting plus seven for the week or something like that, to see just how much that player was struggling and just how for lack of a better term right now just how human he was that week. So it's something that doesn't really get talked about enough. But, like, if you go out and watch a golf tournament, not every player is hitting the green every single time, but the majority of times they are. That's what makes them so freaking good, but right, it's going. You know you're a 10 handicap And I love it. Man, you put a lot of work into becoming a 10 handicap, bro. Like I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2:I did I have, and you know I really enjoy like the grind of it all. But I'm also really really excited to kind of reset because I know like in the long run it's going to make me that much better, especially when we sit down and break down my swing and be like, okay, how many reps of what do I need to do every single day? Because the final thought I'll have on that is I'm taking a full month off on the course and we're just straight up practicing working through my swing, because we've got a lot of video that's like filmed and already pre-recorded and stuff for the page. So I'm excited what's going to come and we will. I'll definitely keep you guys updated. So sounds good.
Speaker 2:If you guys are enjoying the podcast, please give it a share, give it a good rating. You know we're really enjoying this process, jordan and I and everybody else on the pure golf team. It's a lot of fun. When are you going to release this podcast, jordan? this is coming out tomorrow, friday, perfect, and then we will have a tournament recap for you guys next Monday as well. So stay tuned for all of that. Love you guys, and we will talk to you guys later, okay.
Speaker 1:Are you ready for the golf shot draft? I want to set some rules in the place, because it's a very loose draft that I presented to you today. I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:One sec.
Speaker 2:I'm, by the way, coming up with this on the fly because I have so many different shots that I want to be able to really really do.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:How many rounds are we going to do?
Speaker 1:So we're going to do. All right, let's introduce the draft. The draft is five rounds of choosing the golf shot that you would most like to have. Okay, so?
Speaker 2:we're going to give you the first pick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in the bag. And keep in mind your yardages are what they are. Okay, you can't just be like I want to hit the 350 yard drive. You didn't turn into Rory overnight, your shots are what they are.
Speaker 2:We're talking. We're talking shot shaping. That's what we're talking right now.
Speaker 1:So we're talking shot shaping, but also, like I don't want to give anything away, it can be any shot in the bag. Yeah, yeah, i agree with you Like.
Speaker 2:I don't want to box myself into just the shot shapes. There's multiple things that you're you're able to do. Okay, yeah, yeah, do I want to get creative on your digits? Are you giving me the first?
Speaker 1:I'm giving you first pick. Yeah, cause I. I have some. I have some options down here.
Speaker 2:I mean, like this is like near and dear to me and I don't want to be so lame on this first, this first one but it's as somebody that's like a 10, 11, 12 handicap. it's something that I just want in the bag more than ever before, and I'm going to give some backstory to it, but I just want a straight shot right down the middle that I can just consistently rely on. And that's the most boring pick. Is that off the T box? Oh, are we just? are we? do we need it off the tee box?
Speaker 1:You gotta clarify. You can't just say I just need the straight shot, so are you talking off the tee, or okay, yeah, let's go, let's go, let's go off the tee box, since I just proceeded to lose eight balls on my last round. Okay, so we're gonna go off for the fairway finder.
Speaker 2:I'm looking for the fairway finder man, and the reason why is because I mean, you've seen it. You saw it the last time that you saw me play my swing. Right now, dude, i'm playing like a 30 40 yard pull to the left and it's so Tough to like deal with right now and it's so frustrating Because sometimes it doesn't pull and then it just goes directly right because I'm lined up so far right, right. Um, i know that's a boring pick, but for my sanity I need that pick as the number one pick. It's near and dear to me.
Speaker 1:No, i think that's. I think for many golfers That's the almost unanimous selection of. If I could just get off the tee, i think I could enjoy my round of golf.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can do you. Do you want me to get more specific on that fairway finder?
Speaker 2:Yeah, i'm a little more specific if you need to go for it, tell the audience what you're looking for off that T-Bus to give it a little pizzazz, i would love to hit like one of those low stingers off the tee. Keep it below the wind And just. I mean. You see it on YouTube all the time. You watch some YouTube golfers be able to do it. It's a gorgeous shot, right. It is usually do it with like a, like a high iron or or maybe even a three-wood or something like that. So my answer is a low stinger off the tee that is perfectly right down the middle. Every single time I will take that as my fairway finder.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what? it rolls out a good bit, it finds the fairway just keeps rolling down the hill. Okay, okay, i'm gonna take the opposite end of the spectrum on my number one pick. I'm going to go with the knee knocker. Putt that if I could just bank on that going in every time, as opposed to, you know, hands and knees shaking as I'm over it, of being like I'm supposed to make this, but I don't know that I'm gonna make this.
Speaker 2:I can't okay. So what? what is that knee knocker to you I can't give you, just like all intermediate putts. You have to tell me sure.
Speaker 1:So for me, range that's around like it's that, for me It's that distance that you're just like. Everybody around me in my group thinks that I'm going to make this, but I'm not confident that I'm going to make this. It's so probably we're looking at three feet seven inches. It's probably a three foot seven inch putt that I would like to make every single time.
Speaker 2:Dude, there are so many times in our last scramble, the 3v3 at Stonebridge because I don't know if you're gonna cut up this video into different episodes or not, but we played a 3v3 scrambled Stonebridge and I was the worst one in my group and there were so many times where the two other guys in my group are like, hey, zach, just go ahead and finish that, like as in, like the putt was whatever, and I'm sitting there, i'm like Feel like I need to line this one up, just to be sure. But also I didn't want to, i didn't want to waste time, i guess. So then I would then proceed to tell Jaden or Harrison but hey, you guys, just finish out your shot.
Speaker 1:That's what I would say right, guys finish it, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I would avoid that knee knocker putt.
Speaker 1:It's, it really gets to your head and as soon as you miss one It's like ah, it's all downhill from there And it's not like you gain confidence from making one. You need to make like five or six to really gain some confidence, because you're gonna see it again later in the round. Agreed.
Speaker 2:I I agree with that. I think that's a good, solid pick because I think it's very underrated when it comes to a lot of these shots that we're gonna bring up.
Speaker 1:It's true. I mean you're driving for dough.
Speaker 2:Well, you're putting driving for show. I have your putting for dough.
Speaker 1:I'm putting for dough. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:My next shot. I want to add a little more pizzazz to my team, i Think because I've gotten inspiration from a lot of the short game players out there, if I'm able to consistently rely on opening a 60 degree and Just beautifully flop shotting it onto the green. I know you always need that consistent short game club in the bag and for me it's a pitching wedge. You know a bump and run pitching wedge is my consistent shot. But as of late, i've run into that situation where, hey, i've got to chip this thing over a bunker on a short-sided pin and I need this thing to kind of have a little bit of nip, not able to trust that at all whatsoever right now. So if I'm able to control my short game with that type of flop shot and And consistently rely on it, first off, i'd get respect from everybody I'm playing with. Secondly, to rely on that shot I feel like would be beautiful, that would be my favorite shot.
Speaker 1:You should do a YouTube video of simply you trying to hit the flop shot over and over and over.
Speaker 2:I agree with that I actually do agree with that. I think that would be a very entertaining short game video. The problem is is that where I go for Like practicing and everything there's too many cars, especially directly in shank range.
Speaker 2:You're right, i have been played over Drilla out of my mind when it comes to and there's no where that I would have a safe radius that if I do shank, it's either I'm lined up directly at the cars and if this thing goes it's breaking a window, sure, or I'm lined up the opposite way and it's killing somebody on hole nine. So I Gotta figure out a way to do that on the course sometime. But that's my number two pick.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have that written down as the high flop land on a dime type of shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the, the, the nippy jizzler. That's what I've heard on YouTube as well the nippy jizzler.
Speaker 1:Okay, i'm for that title all day, my gosh. We may have to label this podcast as a podcast as explicit, just for that one.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, for me, i'm gonna go. This is around the greens, the kids, the consistent bunker splash shot. Yeah, you get it out of the bunker every single time. It doesn't hit into the lip and plug in or anything, you know it. Just it hits, it just lands in the middle of the green. We're not even trying to approach the pin, we're just trying to get it in the middle of the green, out of the bunker. You know? I agree, i think, yeah, yeah, we're already drafting our teams right now. We definitely have the. The sex appeal is over on Zach's side, the consistencies over on Jordan's side. Yeah, i agree with that.
Speaker 2:I like it. I like it. Okay, my next shot That I think would be. so It'd be a good one to have in the bag, especially for me ever so recently struggling with like really, really really long distance putts. I want a, a potter, over 30 foot putts. I'll be very specific Over 30 foot putts, to put it within two putt range, and I'll let you, should I, clarify what two putt range is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I need you to clarify what the two putt range is of like. You're trying to get it in this circle, but what is that circle?
Speaker 2:It's three feet. That's what I consider. Three feet Like for two foot, that's when you get outside of three feet. That's when I'm like need like, oh crap, this is. I have to really really consider this. But anything that starts with a two in front of it, i feel like I'm pretty confident to put into the hole. So any putt outside of 30 feet to put it within two feet of the pin, is that generic or is that worth?
Speaker 1:No, i think that's like the easy. The easy lag putt is essentially what it is. Yeah, exactly Cause, like when you're getting better at golf, you do hit some green sometimes, but then you got to. You don't want to choke away the green of three putting for the bogey, right, like that's. So you're just trying to be like let me get my par, let me walk off and I'm good. I don't need to sink the 30 footer, i just need to get it close.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Last round I had two birdie opportunities that just completely were wasted away because it was over, I want to say 40, 45 feet at Stonebridge And I proceeded to not get it within that radius And then I proceeded to three putt. It was a bogey, made me feel absolutely horrible. So yeah, that's the reason why that is my third pick on my team.
Speaker 1:Okay, i think my next one I'm drafting way too early, but when I thought of it I was like I need, i need that shot. And so what I'll say is sometimes as an errant driver of the golf ball driving the golf ball was never my strength Had some speed, cool But a lot of times I found myself in the trees. And when you get in the trees you're often I know this has happened to every listener who plays golf You see the opening and you're like I could probably squeeze it through those set of trees. And then you look to the right and you're like but there's an even tighter group of trees that would advance me farther up the fairway. And so what I'm calling this one is the field goal tree shot.
Speaker 1:You see the opening, you just like to lace it through there And I'm thinking you know a little pine tree, a little dirt lie, whatever you're in the forest. But I just want that consistent out advancement of the fairway, of hitting it through the window that I see, because many times and you think it's really awesome when you're doing this you'll hit it through a different opening that you didn't intend to hit through, but all your playing partners are like oh, great shot And you're like, yeah, no, that was definitely the window I was trying to go through, right, so that's what I'm going for.
Speaker 2:The field goal tree shot. I definitely thought about that shot But then I was like, well, if I have my fairway finder stinger that I picked number one, then I shouldn't have to worry about that shot. But I actually I agree with you. I really like that shot. It also makes you look cool to the rest of your group.
Speaker 1:It makes you look so cool, but so does the stinger off the team man Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. All right, we're going to go back to short game. For my number four pick, it's the is it a punch shot? It's the one where you're off the green and it's the one hop stop. Oh yeah, yeah, because, like, if you're able to get spin on your chips like that, that is one of the most gorgeous shots.
Speaker 1:Underappreciated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one hop spinner. That's one of the most underappreciated shots in golf for somebody that's my caliber, because nobody can even do that at my caliber. So if I'm able to do that, and I'm able to do that gorgeous flop shot over a bunker and make it land right next to the pin, then my short game is considered elite. So I want both of those shots.
Speaker 1:So what yardage is that from? Are you thinking? I'm?
Speaker 2:gonna say it. Can I take anything less than 50 yards?
Speaker 1:Sure 50 yards and in you're going with the one hop spinner.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I don't know if you even can from 50 yards out You can?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2:It's just a little bit longer shot. Yeah, i'll take anything 50 yards and in, though That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1:The cart girl is definitely going home with you.
Speaker 2:Zach, my gosh, i mean the shot arsenal you have See, i wanna be a consistent golfer which I'm getting that and also have enough flash to impress everybody around me. So I think my squad is coming together pretty nicely right now.
Speaker 1:It is. But how are you dressed for this arsenal of shots? Are you dressed kind of pristine, like how are you showing up to the course for the arsenal of shots?
Speaker 2:If I have all of these shots in my arsenal, i may have to pull out the old Ricky Fowler like orange on orange or something like that. Like we're going, we're standing out is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we're going fluorescent colors, We're definitely. we have our pure golf bag with us.
Speaker 2:We're definitely gonna get okay. It's like I've got enough shots in the bag now that I can be like an ego maniac when I get on the course and be that type of guy that walks up, calls the pro shot and be like, hey, what's the course record? I'd be one of those guys. Yeah, i'm sounding like a complete and utter dick right now. Not a dick, but just a like a cocky person right now.
Speaker 1:Promise you, i'm not.
Speaker 2:But those are all the shots to encompass somebody that's really really good at golf.
Speaker 1:But when you get really, really good at golf, this is what we have to look forward to. Pure golf community. Zach in fluorescent clothes calling calling courses before he gets there of what is the course record. I like this version of Zach. I don't think I can be.
Speaker 2:I say that but I don't think I could ever do that because I would be so embarrassed by how insane I look that it would affect my golf game. You know, it's like you look good, you play good. I would look like a complete and utter idiot if I tried to dress like Ricky Fowler out there.
Speaker 1:Our comment section would explode with people that hated you.
Speaker 2:We would have people unfollow us. after watching the video, i think I would unfollow us.
Speaker 1:That's fair. I would unfollow too.
Speaker 2:I would just stop posting if I ever dressed in that I love this.
Speaker 1:Okay, pick number four One sec. I got to update my list over here. Okay, i'm going to go. I didn't find myself there often, but I think it's. the hardest shot in golf is the 100 yard bunker shot. You're in the fairway bunker. You don't like the looks of getting out of that fairway bunker And I think I think almost any golfer would love to say like I'm just on the green automatically if I have this shot in the bag because, it's also one you can hardly practice like.
Speaker 1:What driving range has that opportunity to practice? Agreed? So I'm going the flat lie. I'm not going to say downhill lie or uphill lie in the bunker, just the flat lie. Fairway bunker. Get it on to the hole from about 100 yards.
Speaker 2:So can we call you an escape artist? after you get all these, all these shots in your bag, you've got the field goal out of the woods If you got the perfect splash shot out of the bunker on a on a short side of green bunker, and then you've got the 100 yard bunker as well in your arsenal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you've noticed I haven't taken a tee shot yet. I think you're finding my order of importance as I as I go through this. No, you're definitely on to me, definitely on to me. I love it, i love it Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, one shot that I want in general and it doesn't count for this draft. But before my final pick, i just want to say I want to push, draw, just as my shot shape in general. I think that would be. That is the sign of somebody that's on plane and a good golfer. So we talk about that all the time with my swing, and that's really, really what I want.
Speaker 2:Obviously, that's not going to be my fifth and final pick, but my fifth and final pick, dude, i want to go trick shot route. I do, after having all the shots that I have in my bag so far. I want to go trick shot. I just want to make this last one just very, very fun And it would just increase the views on all of our social media. It is the shot that skips off the water onto the green. You know those guys at the Masters I think it's on hole 13 in earlier rounds. They'll do that in practice round. Sorry, excuse me. They will try and skip the ball off the water onto the green. I think John Rahm made it one year, didn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, a couple of guys have made it through the history of the time, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, i mean, it's such a flex when it comes to your golf game. Obviously, it doesn't help me whatsoever when it comes to my actual golf game. Well, i guess it could, but it's all for show. It's literally all for show. But if I had that as my fifth and final shot in the bag, i may have to rock the Ricky Fowler 2012 like fit Excuse me, like that. That, literally. I mean, that's the best way for me to round out my top five in terms of shots.
Speaker 1:It's amazing that we've also come full circle in this podcast too, because if you were now at Stonebridge hole number nine, as we referenced earlier, you would be dressed like Ricky Fowler. You'd be like you know what? guys, i'm not going to be the layup shot for this scramble round of golf. I'm going not over the water, i'm skipping the ball on the water, going directly on it. Yeah, my teammates aren't going to tell me what to do.
Speaker 1:The clubfitter and the conference champion they're not telling me what to do. I'm creating my path forward and I'm skipping the ball. What club do you want to be able to do this with?
Speaker 2:I feel like I got to go like four iron right Something really low Yeah.
Speaker 1:I will tell you, if you pulled that shot off, we would have gotten at least a million views of like you're just trash talking to Jayden and Harrison, stepping up in all orange and skipping it across the water and flagging it. That would have been. That's what we're all here for. Man, it doesn't matter if you have any of these other shots in your arsenal. That's the one that we're after now.
Speaker 2:I can't argue that right. That's you know. I was strictly there for being on camera and trying to, you know, attract more views on the YouTube. That's literally the only reason why I was there. I wasn't there for performance, and that would be the one shot that I would have to hit all day. I could just go home after that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, i think we all could have gone home after that Great.
Speaker 1:Agreed. Yeah, i'm with you on that one. Okay, okay. So yours was the skip across water shot. Okay. My final one is you notice I'm taking a tee shot. Probably should take a tee shot to appease the viewers. So it's ironic that you said that you would love to hit a push draw. So I'm going to take the push draw, the high wow, how am I going to say this? The high draw driver off the tee is all I'm after. I don't need it to go super far And it's not even a fairway finder, it's just the consistent shot shape. You already locked up the fairway finder. I'm covered that if I'm in the rough, if I'm in the fairway bunker, if I'm in the trees, i'm good.
Speaker 2:I need to see that shot shape.
Speaker 1:Yep, you're an escape artist. And, by the way, on your fairway finder, are you taking driver? I just wanted to clarify.
Speaker 2:No, i feel like that's not fair. Okay, in regards to me hitting a low stinger, i know you can with the driver, yeah, but I feel like, in realistic expectations, i feel like that would be a three wood for me, wouldn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, The $25 or three wood from Plain Against Sports.
Speaker 2:I just want to look at My favorite club in the back. I will forever and always say that.
Speaker 1:So that's amazing that 25, we're out there spending hundreds of dollars on golf equipment. Zach walks into Plain Against Sports and is like you know what? This is the one for me. That's incredible to me.
Speaker 2:It's done its job so far. I think it's because the other $25 three what I had previously was made for an old man, in the sense of it was the fattest, it was the thickest face It was wide.
Speaker 2:It was vertically thick Like up and down There was a thick boy for a three wood And I think, just for my eyesight sake and my looking down on the golf ball, it's given me more confidence knowing that I don't have an old man three wood. I just have an old three wood instead of an old man three wood that is made for me and is $25.
Speaker 1:For reference for the viewers. His old three wood is, like you know, if you look down at your three wood, like there's a portion of the ball that's standing above the three wood From Zach's old three wood. The club itself is probably taller than the ball. It was like it could be called a mini driver, but it was absolutely. It was grotesque. And when I looked down at it I was like how are you playing this Like? this makes it look, this makes the ball look so small. Why are you doing this to yourself? And within a week, i think you got a new club after that.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, i was asking you because I was looking down at that three wood and I thought it was like offset, like it literally was under somebody that didn't have a good swing, like literally.
Speaker 2:And I remember going to Jordan and I said Hey, man, i'm just curious because my hands are like set way too far forward, it feels like. And Jordan was like Oh yeah, absolutely, you needed like throw this thing in the trash. So yeah, it's now chilling in my garage. If that was, my next question is where is it now? Yeah, it's chilling in my garage.
Speaker 1:If any of you fellow will do a giveaway for it, Oh my gosh, if we give away that, I am all for it. dude, Oh my gosh, Our first giveaway is an absolute piece of crap club. You were again. you get so many unfollows.
Speaker 2:So you can leave this in the pod if you want, But I was talking to Arianna. we're talking about potential giveaways for the viewers when it comes to like our Instagram specifically. And he was talking about, yeah, you should maybe, like you know, give away some golf balls, some Provy once and really nice golf balls and you should have multiple winners. How about we do like we have the top two winners that both get Provy ones, But then if you are the third place person, you don't even get a reward. You get my trash, which is my old three wood.
Speaker 1:that is a $25 three wood that I got from play. I love it. It is the most insulting thing you could do. Like you get the viewers hopes up for some new golf balls and then third place comes in and like this sucks. Like it's actually it's. It's very present in my house, like is awful and it's going to make me a worse golfer. So I'm very curious where we found it, where we find it from there after diners, oh, agreed.
Speaker 2:I really hope somebody close to us wins it and I can send him my literal garbage that's sitting in my garage. It's like a. It's a win for me because I can clear some space in the garage and then it's also, you know, it's not a win for them.
Speaker 1:I was about to say it's a way to stay in on their very existence.
Speaker 2:It's a win lose for sure for them. But it's, it's part of the raffle, right? It's part of the the contest. You don't know if you're going to get something really good or really really horrible.
Speaker 1:I actually love this concept for our giveaways moving forward, you could actually like win a form of the lottery, or you could actually lower the very existence of your life. I love the risk reward of entering the pure golf giveaways.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking about that. I'm also thinking we do the, we do the golf balls right. We get you either win, you know, a gorgeous pack of Provy ones, a gorgeous pack of TP fives, um, and then the third place gets 12 waterlogged golf balls. I found out at the Woodland Hills.
Speaker 1:Yes, Yes, there, i love what we're building here, because what we're going to find ourselves doing as a company is going out and making terrible purchases for giveaways and we're actually going to be spending company money on bad giveaway stuff And I think it's going to be a hit with some of the, with some of the followers. Man, i think it will be absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, that's so funny. Um have you, did we finish the draft? Is that five rounds of five rounds?
Speaker 1:That is the five rounds of the draft We'll close it out with. Here's Zach's team is the fairway finder, the I'm going to get this wrong The nippy jizzler Is that what we call it. It's the no.
Speaker 2:No-transcript. Yeah, did we say the nippy jizzler? No, we said the nippy jizzler for the one hop stop.
Speaker 1:I did the flop shot over The high flop was called the nippy jizzler. You did it really regret That was called the nippy.
Speaker 2:You're right. Wait then, what's the one hop? no, the one hop stop is called the one hop stop. I'm sorry that's just me just screwing up. Yes, the nippy jizzler is the flop shot, landing right next to the green with a lot of spin.
Speaker 1:For Zach's team that's listening. I just want you to know that he already got your name wrong. He drafted you, he signed you and then he got your name wrong, so I don't know about this. Okay, so we have fairway finder, the nippy jizzler, the lag putt to within three feet, the one hop spinner Yep And the skip across the water shot with the four iron. Oh yeah, okay, jordan's team is the knee knocker putt, which is exactly three feet seven inches that he holds every single time. We have the bunker splash. We have the field goal tree shot, the fairway bunker shot and the high draw off the tee with the driver.
Speaker 2:It's a pretty good array of shots that we both have. I like it. I agree And we don't really have the approach shot in. We've got the big shot off the tee and then we've got a lot of short game stuff, you know.
Speaker 1:We do, and we're gonna be terrible once we are both on the fairway. But if I'm in the trees I'm good because I got the field goal shot. So good luck getting to the green, bro.
Speaker 2:I feel like we should both be pretty confident trying to get up and down however Sure we're gonna save par every single time.
Speaker 1:Anything else to tell the viewers before we head out?
Speaker 2:When is this going on? What podcast? This is all tomorrow. This is all tomorrow, okay. Well, hopefully you guys enjoy. Like I said, if you guys want to support the page, want to support the podcast. I've had some people DM me about the podcast because they've reached out to me about through Messenger and Facebook Messenger, instagram stuff and they're asking about specific things, whether it comes to how we're filming all that types of stuff, and I've had a few people say, hey, you guys have a podcast too, right.
Speaker 2:I was like, yeah yeah, so we got some people that are now listening coming in from the different platforms, which is really encouraging. So if you guys are enjoying the podcast, if you guys are enjoying the content, please, like I said earlier, give it a nice rating. share it to somebody that may enjoy. Just two dudes talking about golf. man, we're just really enjoying it And yeah, that's literally all I've got.
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